Survivor Live Internet Talk Show with 
Rebecca Borman and Jenny Guzon-Bae
Episode 9 Survivor: Cook Islands  Cast-Off 
Segment 1 Transcript

Rebecca = Rebecca Borman   Jenny = Jenny Guzon-Bae

DR:  Let's get into what's going to be happening next week.  Survivor is going to be on on Thanksgiving at 8 PM, regularly scheduled time.  But we will not be here Friday with the castoff.  We will be showing up the following Monday, November 27th at 2 PM ET with how many castoffs there are.  You never know with Survivor.  One more thing, Morasca, I've got a bottle here with a secret message and we're going to reveal this at the end of the show.  Let's get to our guests.  Rebecca and Jenny, good to have you here.  You're both looking wonderful.

JM:  You [Rebecca] look very different than you do on the show.

DR:  I want to start with Rebecca because I felt you got a little gypped last night.  We didn't even get to see your parting words. 

Rebecca:  You know, that really bothered me, too.

DR:  When they do separate Tribal Councils they go to a commercial and they show it but they obviously didn't have that opportunity.  So what gives?

Rebecca:  I was pissed off about that.  I felt being as that was my last day I should have had more confessionals, too.

JM:  Did you say anything good?

Rebecca:   I said that I was pissed at Jenny and Nate for not telling me I was being voted off.  <laughter>   Those were my two closest alliances.  

JM:  Did you see her immediately coming behind you and were you like, "Ha, ha."

Rebecca:  No.  The whole night was just screwed up.  I felt that neither one of us should have been going home.  It was just unfortunate.

JM:  Why aren't you getting rid of Jonathan?  I hate him.  I don't want to say I hate...

DR:  Yeah, you hate Jonathan.

JM:  He is really so abrasive.  And that whole white bonding supremacy thing. 

DR:  Do we have white power?  Is that what we have on Survivor?  White power?

JM:  I pray to God we don't have a white final four for God's sake.  It would be terrible.  It would be so boring.

DR:  They weren't doing so well as a tribe to begin with and they're not doing so well individually in these challenges.  You talked about being upset at Nate.  You thought Nate was your boy and you had this connection and it seemed like early on you guys did have a connection.

Rebecca:  Right.  Yeah, I thought we did, too.

DR:  What  happened?

Rebecca:  I'll have to find out when I see him at Finale and ask him and say, "Why didn't you come forward and give me the hint that today was going to be my day?"  At least I could have fought for a little bit.   I had an idea, I'm not going to lie.  I had that swim collapse and that showed me being really weak and I knew that I was under the radar.  The day that I was actually voted off Nate was the weak link in that challenge.  So I thought that I was kind of safe.  I was just disappointed.

JM:  Let's face it, you're losing with the guys.  They're not really helping you out much.  Maybe they should just get rid of all the guys. 

DR:  Jenny, I want to get to you now.  We talked about the white thing and these people coming together and that's why they jumped.  You seemed very hip to that trip and you see Adam say, "Jenny is going to want to get rid of Candice or Jonathan."  That's what you thought was going to happen, right?

Jenny:  Definitely but it wasn't because of their race. 

DR:  But it was because they were in a tribe to begin with?

Jenny:  I was really more concerned about Adam and Candice because I noticed a little lovey dovey thing going on. 

JM:  Right.  A major Rob and Amber plot.  

Jenny:  We had included Adam without Candice prior to the mutiny so that was where my concern was.  I outright said to Adam, "Listen when it comes down to it and we need to get rid of Candice are you going to vote her off?"  He said, "Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it, you guys."  It was me, Nate, Parvati at the time, and Adam.  He said, "Don't worry, I'm with you guys."   Then watching the show last night, he wanted it to be just him and Candice. 

JM:  Everyone's like, "Jonathan is such a traitor."  So is Candice.  Why is she slipping by?  For a lot of people they are saying, they're really focusing on Jonathan having to pull his weight.  In my opinion Candice is just as big of a traitor as he is.  She still jumped from the same tribe.

Jenny:  She doesn't come off that way and Jonathan does.

Rebecca:  Immediately when she comes to our camp, we were all aware of the fact that she did it for her man.  She's in love with that boy.  That's the only reason why she decided to mutiny. 

Jenny:  I don't get it.  They both had it really good over at Aitu.  They're winning challenges.  They secured that alliance right before that moment.  When they stepped over, we were like, 'what are you doing.' 

JM:  You usually see an outsider doing that.  Not someone right in the heart of the alliance.   Candice you can see her reason for doing it but what is Jonathan Penner doing?  Sekou is that you on line five?

Sekou:  I love you all.

Rebecca:  I love you, too.  You've got a lot of love in your heart.  After I voted you off?  <laughs>

DR:  Sekou, I don't know if you saw but the other day we replayed the clip of you in here jamming.  How's the music thing going?

Sekou:  I just completed and submitted to Mark Burnett the Survivor song I wrote. 

Rebecca:  Congratulations.

Sekou:  It's pretty banging.  I'm gonna jam that live for my fellow tribemates and all the other contestants so we can have a big ball at the Finale.  It's coming along really well and I want to thank you guys again for having me on there.  I just wanted to tell those beautiful women right there, I'm gonna take them out to dinner.  When ya'll come to L.A. I'm gonna take ya'll to dinner or something. 

Rebecca:  Sounds good.  We turn away no food.

Jenny:  We're not picky. 

Sekou:  I have two questions.  For Rebecca, how did it feel to not be able to use the option of having a gender alliance in your tribe to vote someone out?

Rebecca:  At that time I didn't even recognize that it was a gender issue.  I was more concerned that it was more just staying in the game and being strategic with the people that I was aligned with.  But now looking back at it, I should have played it differently. 

Sekou:  For Jenny, you did real well with your tribe.  Ya'll won a lot of competitions but when you were with this new tribe how did you feel, how was your confidence with competing?

Jenny:  Oh, it shot down because when I was with Puka we worked well together.  It was really the brainstorming of Yul and his strategizing that helped Puka and then we just learned to work together and work together well.  We lacked that tremendously in the new Raro tribe.  It was very upsetting to keep losing and losing. 

Sekou:  Ya'll are winners in my sight.  You look beautiful and I know I'll see you at the Finale. 

Rebecca and Jenny:  Definitely. 

Sekou:  I'll talk to ya'll soon.

DR:  Sekou brings up an interesting point.  The Puka tribe was the tribe to beat when we had four tribes.  Then you brought up the Raro problems at the challenges.  I want to look at the Reward Challenge from last night.  I think it illustrates all the problems you guys are having with chemistry, communication, all that stuff.  

<video clip of Reward Challenge>

DR:  There's a difference between cheering someone on and just sounding annoyed and frustrated. 

Jenny:  Usually you see that in every challenge, someone is saying something out of frustration.  The only reason I really hesitated right off the bat was because he was going for North/Northeast and I'm like, "Wait a minute, what are you doing?"  Then all of a sudden I had lost where we were in this compass.  If we started off wrong, the whole thing is going to be wrong. 

JM:  It seems like Jonathan gets frazzled really easily at challenges.  Jeff ticked him off one time. 

Rebecca:  He doesn't work well under pressure. 

Jenny:  We came back from that challenge and we were all just down.  Like, "damnit, not again."  We were sitting around the fire and everyone out of frustration was saying, "I can't believe this is happening again."  Jonathan was trying to be the martyr and trying to be, "Well you know it's okay, we're gonna do..."   We said, "Jonathan you don't understand.  We have been losing.  You came from a tribe where you have been winning.  You can have all this positive energy but we've been losing so it's really hard to keep that head up after really being so defeated." 

Caller:  I know your tribe lost the challenge where the letters [from home] were given.  Do they get those letters once they are voted off?

Rebecca:  No.  We don't get anything when we're voted off. 

Jenny:  That was a really upsetting challenge to lose.  That was the barrel one, that was brutal. 

JM:  That was so funny, though.  I don't know how they stuck all you guys in there.

Jenny:  The worst part that you didn't see was that Becky was a representative on that side and I was a representative on my side.  We had to get out of the barrel after going through part of the obstacle, pull the buoys down and then the guys would retrieve them.  Then we get back in and they shove the buoys in.  When we were tumbling and turning then we get out and I thought they would show it. 

DR:  I wanted to ask you this.  You're on TV, everyone's watching you, the mutiny happens, all of a sudden, even though it's really directed more at Candice and Jonathan, your tribe are the bad guys.  You're the villains in the sense that everyone wants the underdogs to win.  It's natural, everyone's rooting for Aitu.

Jenny:  It was bad.  We came back from our previous Immunity Challenge where we won.  We evened up the numbers, 6 and 6.  It was the zip challenge.  We were like, "Thank God we finally won one that was so important to us. Now we've got it together."  Then next challenge it's a mutiny and you've two people throwing our plans awry.  It was awful.  And then we look like the bad guys. 

DR:  Everyone loves an underdog.

JM:  And I'm sure people on your own tribe didn't want them to come over anyway.  The only people that wanted them to come over was Adam.  You never want people coming over on your turf after all the work you've just done. 

Jenny:  Especially when you're really deprived of food and now you've got to feed two more people. 

JM:  That's why I'm surprised to see that Jonathan is still there.  

Caller:  On that merger if the entire team had jumped they could have entirely formed a merger. 

DR:  I'm aware of that and I actually emailed Jeff Probst about that.  I said, "What's the deal if that had happened?  We're you guys prepared for a merge?"  Because they've got the challenge all set up.  He said, "Yes we were prepared for it.  We would have gone to an early merge. We didn't want that to happen and didn't think it would happen. We didn't think anyone would jump."  If you notice, Jonathan jumps right before "zero".  So there really was no time after that for anyone to do anything.  If Yul had went over there then it's an individual game and Yul's going to be targeted and he might have to use that hidden immunity idol earlier than he wanted to.

<Probst's Thoughts about Rebecca>

Jeff Probst:   Here's a funny back story to Rebecca.  When we first met her in casting I think the news had just come out that Star [Jones] was leaving "The View" and Rebecca works on "The View" as a make-up artist.  She was in lockdown and didn't know that.  Then when we were out on the show it was announced that Rosie was replacing Meredith and coming on the show to join.  She couldn't hear the news.  In both cases I know it directly affected you personally and it was stuff that we wanted to tell you and just couldn't.  Rebecca is an absolute delight.  Just a charming way about her, a wonderful smile, great energy and you really never lost that.  You kept your spirit up almost every single day and that's not easy to do in this game when so many things can get you down and wear you out.  I hope you enjoyed your time on the show because we certainly enjoyed having you on it. 

DR:  Nice!

Rebecca:  Very nice.  He felt bad for me because he didn't know if I was coming back to a job or not.  All those changes while I wasn't there.

DR:  They didn't know where you were, not even Elisabeth. 

Rebecca:  I lied to every single person.  And they're going to torture me about this on Monday because I'm actually co-hosting "The View".  So I'm sure that they're going to ream me. 

JM:  Well at least Star won't be there. 

DR:  We're going to take a quick break.

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