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Survivor Live Internet Talk Show with Candice Woodcock
Episode 11 Survivor: Cook Islands Cast-Off
Segment 1 Transcript

(Transcript by SurvivorFever.net 12.01.06)

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JM = Jenna Morasca DR = Dalton Ross Candice = Candice Woodcock

DR: Candice, how's it going? Welcome.

Candice: Thank you, it's good to be here.

DR: I was on location and spoke to all the Survivors before the game started and spoke to Candice about 48 hours before the game started. It's always fun to go back and look at some of the questions you asked about "how are you going to play this game" and see whether that actually held up or if it, in the words of Jonathan, all ended up being bollocks.

JM: Can we get a definition on 'bollocks'?

DR: I guess 'crap' would be closest. I found this telling and interesting. This is a question I asked Candice before the game started. I asked: "Let's say you go to Tribal Council and you think, 'my head's on the block and they told me so, I think I might go', what sort of tack are you going to take to try and turn the tide? Candice answered: "Well, I mean there's always the intellectual, like, "Here's why you should keep me. Blah, blah blah. But if it comes down to it, I'm kicking and screaming, I don't care, I will throw a fit. If I know I'm going and it's my last ditch attempt, you know I'm not going down without a fight." That was certainly true last night, wasn't it?

Candice: Yes it was. I mean I knew my number was up and I did try all the rational things. I went to everybody and tried to find a crack and it just wasn't happening. Yul was like, "Candice, I want to be honest. Not happening."

JM: What about trying to really work around camp and then they'd be like, "Look, Parvati's not doing anything." Did you try maybe to deflect towards her or did you not want to do that?

Candice: I didn't think that it would matter because they wanted me gone. They didn't want me to have a chance to try to flip somebody over because I was the one who knew all the Aitus and they thought that I would have the best chance of maybe getting Jonathan back because I was with him the whole time. So I think that they just wanted me gone because they didn't want that question mark out there.

DR: In all this scrambling and you're taking on Jonathan and calling out Yul, how much of that was strategy, trying to shake it up? How much was personal? You obviously did seem hurt. Was it about 50/50 or which way was it sort of tilting?

Candice: The strategy was to try to shake some things up. I knew I was going before I started that fish fight incident. I knew and Yul had told me so. I figured maybe I could try to deflect some things. Maybe some people will vote for Jonathan instead of me. I wanted to expose Yul that he's not completely honest and unscathed in this game. If I was going to go I wanted the truth to be out there. It was emotional. I was upset. Mainly I wanted to just get things stirred up. Once I started I just kept going.

JM: It was like word vomit. Things just kept coming out. It was great but it was also funny to see Yul in that position. It was kind of an uncomfortable moment. Like, ut oh, it looks like the king has fallen from his throne. It is true, everyone has to do some deception in this game.

Candice: And there's nothing wrong with that.

JM: No.

DR: Let's take a look at the clip when Candice is putting both Jonathan and Yul the puppet master on the spot.

DR: We've had a lot of negative comments about Jonathan on the show.

JM: I think I might be getting a change of heart for him.

DR: I saw you on The Early Show this morning and you had some words to say about him in the game but outside the game actually some kind words which surprised me a little bit.

Candice: Yeah, Jonathan's a good guy and he was playing a game just like I was playing a game. Last episode he had his back up against the wall and he had to make a decision. He did it. He had to save himself. I understand that.

JM: You like him or hate him, he's playing a heck of a game. He's really making it interesting whether you like him or not.

Candice: Whether he's playing smart or not I don't know.

JM: Whether he can win at this point is doubtful. I want to talk about the whole laying around camp thing. Obviously Jonathan is working very hard. Did you feel that it was accurate that you guys were doing maybe a little bit less work or were they just workhorses?

Candice: Nobody went out on Raro...nobody went out fishing as much as Jonathan did. But keep in mind, I was on Exile most of the time. So you don't see me out and around because most of the time I'm on Exile. Everyone else is eating these 22 fish that Jonathan caught. I'm not. I'm having sea slugs. My energy level is going like this (hand goes down). But we did go out. We got crabs and trochis, coconuts and everything else. We got water and we started fire. Jonathan did have a very strong work ethic. He worked very hard. I won't take that away from him. It's not that we didn't do work.

Caller: Candice, I'm sorry you had to go to Exile Island so much. Now that you are gone do you think that Adam is going to hook up with Parvati?

JM: We saw him getting a little bit snuggly and we saw him saying that you both could share me which was a little gross.

Candice: That's was a little gross which was interesting after watching that one scene Parvati was a good friend saying "What about Candice? You're a dirty bird."

JM: She's still cuddling with him though.

Candice: I think he was the one who was in the wrong, not her. But who knows. It's a game and if it works for their strategy...

JM: Oh my gosh. I know you're probably cringing. If you could go back would you have put the burner down a little bit on the relationship?

DR: The showmance.

JM: Sometimes it does cloud your judgment a a little bit.

Candice: I wasn't making decisions based on, oh I have feelings for this person or anything like that. I knew that I could trust him out there and that he wasn't going to backstab and betray me. I wanted to have several options for what to do in case if something crazy happened and that was one of the options. That is kind of going into the mutiny. But no, ummm, I didn't go in there, I didn't want to have a romance on the show. That's the last thing that I wanted to happen. I'm a fan of the show and I hate watching that on there. But when you're there, I was getting sent to Exile all of those times and he was watching out for me and I appreciated that and everything in the moment gets heightened.

DR: And the word on the street is that you and Adam are no longer a couple.

Candice: Right.

JM: I wouldn't have been after he didn't give you that immunity necklace. What kind of a man is that? Heidi didn't even have to make out with me and I gave it to her.

Caller: I wanted to call and congratulate you on winning the CBS poll four weeks in a row. I wanted to ask you if you had any regrets about not waiting til the merge before you made your flip.

JM: We gotta talk about the dreaded mutiny, the turning point, I think.

DR: I hated it. Hated the move of you jumping. It makes a group of people hate you and do things like send you to Exile and want to get rid of you.

JM: It was definitely a turning point. Bad for you guys, good for the other tribe.

DR: We heard you on The Early Show say you don't regret it. I find that impossible to believe.

Candice: What I said was, knowing what I knew at the time, I would have done the same thing. Now sitting back and watching it and knowing Yul had the idol, we lost every challenge after I mutinied, that we'd have to vote two people out and that Jonathan would have flipped, of course. And mutiny kind of puts you out there. But as soon as you flip after the merge, everyone's going to know it. At the time, there were lots of reasons. Becky and Yul said to me that they wanted to take me to the final three. I knew that they were really smart and playing this game really hard. They knew I was playing the game really hard. I thought they'd have to be dumb to want to take me to the Final Three with them over someone who maybe didn't perform as well in the challenges or wasn't thinking more strategically like maybe Sundra or someone who was kind of generally disliked like Jonathan. I also knew they wanted to pull Brad over. So that's putting me further and further up the list. They also voiced concern over my relationship with Parvati and Adam. They were worried that I was going to jump. It almost kind of forced me to jump because they felt threatened like I was definitely going to do it. Yul kept talking about the prisoners dilemma. How somebody's going to jump because it's too attractive. You just have to be the first one to do it. So all those factors come into play. When we stole Nate over to Aitu I had a conversation with him and Sundra where he said that he and Adam were running the show over there and that he, Nate, wanted to work with me, Adam, Parvati, Sundra, Rebecca. So I knew I had an in there and I knew if they were kind of running the show over there and Adam really trusted me, I could kind of be saying things in his ear and kind of controlling things more that way and be away from Aitu where I thought there was just too many cooks in the kitchen. And I wanted to make it to the end. I didn't want to make it to number three.

JM: Good!

Candice: I didn't want to make it to just number two. I thought I could go over to Raro, control things more. Control maybe who is going to stay until the merge and get rid of people who might have a chance of flipping back which is why we kept Jonathan. We thought, they'll never take him back. He's a traitor. All those things went into it. I knew they merge around ten and it was six and six when the mutiny happened. If two people went over I expected Sundra to come, not Jonathan. That would make it eight versus four. If we got rid of two people we'd still be up in numbers, we could lose every Immunity Challenge. Whereas if I stayed at Aitu we had to win every Immunity Challenge in order to go into the merge up in numbers. If we lost even one we'd be tied at best.

DR: It's tough putting yourself so out there at that point in the game, though. If you sort of stick to and go to the merge and it's a little more stealth move you have options. You have options to stay with where you're at or go back over. You sort of run out of options when you do something like that.

Candice: But I didn't know whether Adam and Parvati would get voted off. I felt like going over there I could kind of control my fate.

DR: Plus you had a little cuddle bunny waiting for you. Let's be honest about it, alright?

Caller: In hindsight do you think it was fair to attack Candice and Yul for not sharing food when you did not contribute and you're in another alliance?

Candice: The editing shows that I didn't contribute. As I remember it, I started the fire and then went and laid down. I didn't know that there were any fish at the time. We always kind of shared responsibilities. The people who went out and fished were mainly Ozzy and Jonathan. Did Becky go out and fish? Did Sundra go out and fish? Yul didn't go out and fish. We always shared. It's ridiculous to have everybody go out and fish. I knew I was probably going to go, go home. So at the beginning of the conversation I said, guys I'm not even going to eat but you have to work with these other two. They're going to at least be here for another three days, another six days, who knows. And you're also working for jury votes right now and that's a dumb move for you guys to make. It makes you look bad and you've been trying to play an ethical game. You've always talked about not sinking to whatever level but you guys just sunk to that level. I was also trying to stir things up and I didn't try to attack Yul. Jonathan said, "Well, Candice, you called me a rat." Jonathan didn't know that unless Yul told him.

JM: Yul was playing both sides like everyone else is.

DR: Let's take a quick break.

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