Survivor Live Internet Talk Show with Brad Virata
Episode 8 Survivor: Cook Islands  Cast-Off 
Segment 1 Transcript

JM:  So many bitter feelings after that happened last night.

DR:  A lot of bitter feelings.  

JM:  I don't think I've ever rooted so hard for another team like I did for the underdogs.  I wanted them to just win everything.

DR:  And now we want to talk to the guy that we were rooting against, Brad.  Sorry buddy.

Brad:  That's alright.  What is up with that, though.

JM:  Maybe we were rooting against the white people on his tribe.

Brad:  Truth be told, I was rooting for the other tribe, too.

JM:  Why didn't you jump ship?  Did you think about it?

Brad:  Yeah, I thought about that for a fraction of a second then I was like, 'crap, I'm going to have five Raro members vying for my head after the merge'.  So then I'm like, 'no it's not a smart move.'

JM:  It really is never a smart move even if Jonathan or Candice get to the finals, it will never be a smart move to do something like that.  It's way too risky and it makes you look like such a traitor. 

Brad:  Like a backstabbing traitor.  That's exactly what I didn't want. 

DR:  And look at Candice's reason when she's asked about it.  She says, "They look like they have more fun."

JM:  Bull.  She wants to get in Adam's...

DR:  I don't know what that means.

JM:  It's an embrace.

DR:  But what about Jonathan?  We see Candice jump out and we say, "Ok, she wants to be with Adam."  And then Penner, at the very last second, does a little skip move.

Brad:  Yeah Penner is the Slim Shady, not me.  He drove me crazy.  He's a good guy but on the island he's pretty conniving. 

JM:  But I also thought it was funny how Nate was so adamant about Jonathan going because he's saying that he was a traitor.  I'm thinking, so was Candice.  Why is everybody letting Candice go?  Is it because she's cute or because Adam smoothed everything over for her?

Brad:  It's a combination of the cute factor and the whole, "I'm hanging out with Adam" factor, too.

JM:  Jonathan is really abrasive.

DR:  He's a gamer and he's playing the game hard.  There's nothing wrong with that.  I don't think there's anything wrong with that but he's not hiding it well.  Everyone sees that he's playing.  And that brings us to one of your comments, Brad.  You say, once it gets to an individual game, the merge happens, it's every man for himself.  Totally accurate.  But then Nate, who pounces on any comment anyone makes, he pounces on Stephannie for making a comment of basically not playing the game hard enough.  He pounces on you for playing the game too hard.  What do you think of that?

Brad:  He totally blew it out of proportion.  I'm like, it's coming from left field.  I didn't get him being pissed off so much.  And Parvati for that matter, too.  I think they completely blew it up out of context and didn't really understand what I was saying. 

JM:  It was one challenge you sat out.  Really that was the whole thing behind...

Brad:  It was the puzzle challenge where I said, "Dude I know puzzles like the back of my  hand, I do creative things, I understand colors. I can do this.  We lose in the final homestretch of every challenge in the past four times.  I'm not going to do it this time."  That's why I wanted to do the puzzle.  Plus, Rebecca stepped up to the plate and she's like, "I'm gonna swim.  I'm doing a great job.  I've been practicing."  So she stepped up to the plate and at the end of the day it didn't pan out.  It's not my fault.

DR:  You do the puzzle and get a lot of grief and then the Immunity Challenge comes right after and Adam does the puzzle and not swimming.  You guys won so it wasn't a big an issue but it's the same sort of thing.  He's a decent swimmer.  Maybe not as good as you. 

Brad:  Yeah, he's a decent guy in the physical challenge overall.  But it's a double edge sword.  I think at the end of the day he played a decent game.  We'll see what happens next.  

JM:  No one can beat Ozzy in swimming or anything.  That guy is half fish.

Brad:  Ozzy is like superhuman in general.

JM:  He must have been raised by some kind of water animal.  Does he have any kind of swimming background?

Brad:  He's just superhuman.  Climbing up those trees, he's just amazing. 

JM:  They really pulled it through last night, having four people.

DR:  They really did and I don't know if there was anyone that wasn't rooting for them.  They were abandoned by their tribe.  You've got all these strong guys over here. 

JM:  Yul was wearing glasses.  And shoving those girls in that barrel was the funniest thing.  The challenges have been great so far.  That was so funny especially when your team decided to shove all four buoys into the barrel along with the girls. 

Caller:  Brad, how did you feel when Nate referred to you as a "nancy boy"?

Brad:  I saw that.  I'm like, "God, what a jerk."  But you take everything with a grain of salt.  The elements kind of took place.  It was pissing down rain.  He wasn't in a good mood.  We just lost a Reward Challenge.  I'm not making excuses.  It still kind of pisses me off to this day.  But again, at the end of the day it's a game and you have to take everything with a grain of salt.  So it is what it is.

JM:  Nancy boy?  No one even uses that anymore. 

DR:  I don't think I've heard that since 1975.

Brad:  The funny thing is, if we were to be head up in any type of challenge, I think I would do a good job of beating him more whether it be a swimming challenge or a more physical challenge.  So, we'll see at the end of the day who is the nancy boy. 

JM:  And you're part of the jury.  Ding, ding, ding, ding.

DR:  Let's talk about the whole Nathan thing because we see him making a lot of comments.  How much of this did you know when you were out there and how much did you see just on TV?

Brad:  I was blindsided completely by Nate.  I didn't see any of it coming to be perfectly honest with you.  It hit me like a ton of bricks when I saw it on television because I thought we had originally had a tight alliance, Nate, Adam, myself and Parvati.  At the end of the day we didn't. 

JM:  Nate looks like the type of person who is really nice to everyone's face and then behind their backs he's really nasty. 

Brad:  Yeah, just a conniving little person.

JM:  I'm always weary of anyone who feels like they have to go extra, extra, extra overboard to make someone feel like they're going to stay just to be rude.  Because then something like this happens where all of a sudden he's on the jury.  You should really never go out of your way to make someone feel that way because you never know what's going to happen.  They could come back like the outcasts.  It's just really unnecessary to do.  Just avoid that person like everyone else does.

DR:  A lot of what Brad saw was on TV and he didn't know out there. It's walking a fine line, Morasca, because you also want to make sure he doesn't scramble.  You give him a hint that he's going, maybe he scrambles, he goes and talks to the girls and you know.

Caller:  Jenna and Dalton, if you were on the tribe would you have switched?  And Brad, did you consider switching or not?

JM:  Not a chance.

DR:  Not a chance.  I mean, the only way is if you were just so ostracized by your tribe.  Remember Cirie.  Shane went up to Melinda and Cirie and said, "You two are going next, I don't care what the order is."   Melinda went.  Cirie then stuck around, stuck around.  Look what happened. 

JM:  You eliminate a whole tribe of options and that's just way too many at this point. 

Brad:  I totally agree.  I thought about it for a fraction of a second but then at the end of the day, you're going to be merging pretty soon so you don't want to piss off your original tribe mates and you'll be looked at as this backstabbing jerk.  

JM:  If I was Nate or you, I'd be like, "we need to watch these white people because they are all coming back together again."

DR:  We're talking about the mutiny.  Let's check out the clip of the mutiny and the reaction. 

<clip of mutiny and IC win>

DR:  Great twist, great clip.  So many things going on here.  First of all, how Ozzy has change.  The different edit that he's getting now.  He's throwing challenges, he seems cocky...

JM:  I would have had a lot of trouble not rubbing it in their faces, too. 

DR:  Absolutely justified. 

JM:  The spitting maybe not. 

Brad:  And pound for pound we look like a stronger tribe with Nate, Adam and myself.

JM:  What's the problem, is it communication?

Brad:  Communication gap.  We're not talking to each other.  We're losing in the homestretch of every freaking challenge.  That's what pisses me off. 

DR:  Here's my question.  Probst offers this mutiny thing.  What if Candice jumps out, Jonathan jumps out, then Yul says to everyone, "let's go" and then everyone jumps out and are on one tribe.  What do you do then. 

JM:  That would have been really smart but you don't have that much time to think about it.  I doubt that Yul is ever going to follow anything Jonathan does anyway. 

Brad:  Yeah, they don't seem to like each other.  Yul doesn't seem to like him. 

DR:  Usually if someone is going to make this move they are really on the outside but these were people controlling the tribe, right in the middle.  They're obviously not the outcasts, misfits or anything.  The whole thing was just sort of odd. 

JM:  I thought it was completely unnecessary and I hope that they get bit in the butt for that. 

DR:  You see them walking over to your tribe.  You guys had to have this nervous like...

Brad:  I'm like, I didn't know them.  I'd had like a 15 second conversation with both of them my entire life and I didn't know them from any Tom, Dick and Harry that walked up to me.  So the whole trust factor came into play.  I felt like they were coming way too late in the ballgame. 

DR:  Morasca brought up, the white people situation.  They were four people that were on the same tribe, same ethnicity, did that concern you?

Brad:  No, honestly, I really didn't even think about that.  I was just thinking that I've got my strong alliance with the boys and Parvati and we're just going to keep it like this and pick Jonathan off and then eventually pick Candice off and so on and so forth.

JM:  Someone last night said, "let's keep the Caucasians." 

Brad:  Jonathan said that.  

JM:  So maybe the race thing is coming back into being a factor with the white people, which is shocking. 

DR:  You thought you had your strong alliance.  Morasca and I were trying to make heads or tails of this voting pattern the first few weeks you guys were on Rarotonga.  It seemed like you had this guy's thing with J.P. then the girls took you aside and you vote J.P. out.  And then we're trying to figure out, when did this alliance sort of come together?

Brad:  The alliance came together early on in the ballgame. 

DR:  J.P. wasn't in it?

Brad:  No.  He was originally in it.  He was part of the alliance but when you have five pissed off girls coming at you, saying, "Hey this is what we're going to do tonight.  What do you think?"   You're not going to piss 'em off.   Looking back in retrospect it might have been one of the regrets.  He could have helped us in some of our challenges.  But it is what it is and hindsight is 20/20.  What can you do? 

DR:  We're going to take a quick break.  More with Brad.  We've got to talk about this whole jury thing.  A ten member jury is what it's looking like right now, what's up with that? 

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